toaster - User contributions [en]

WorkBreakdown

2015-03-11T06:25:38Z

Roymeo: /* Base */

== Helpers ==
* [[Inspiration]]
* word Doc {{checkx}}
* wiki {{important}}
** install {{checkmark}}
** allow uploads {{checkmark}}
* Foamcore mockup {{bang}}
* Illustrator [[Diagrams]]
** take old interior to new profile {{checkmark}}
** resize based on wall dimensions {{checkbox}}
** add stove/cooler {{checkbox}}

== Questions/Next Steps ==
* Frame construction:
** Wall thickness to determine frame width
** What shape of steel?
** Get ball measurement
** Figure out angle for a-frame coupler attachment
** etc
* Foamcore mockup:
** Footwell: Did the changes to the design when making the .ai shrink the legroom too much?
** Footwell: Do we want a shoe-shelf? Full width or just side triangles?
** Headboard: What to do with the headboard? Play with designs.
* Foamcore construction:
** Start getting Foamcore from SCRAP (pay attention to thickness) {{checkmark}}
** Get a final set of measurements {{checkmark}}
** Take foamcore to Am Steel to start building in the space (and see how we fit)
** we should probably set a date

== Trailer ==
[[Diagrams]]
=== Exterior ===
==== [[Frame]] ====

==== Base ====
* 108" x 56" plywood, made from 2 5x5' sheets of 1/2" thick plywood. Framed underneath with 1x2, 1x3, 1x4 birch(?).
* 1x4" piece to help join the 2 pieces of plywood.
* 1x3" piece to span the mid-back which has no frame piece below.
* 1x2" pieces frame the rest.
* Grooves cut in middle framing pieces for the running lights.
* Bottom covered by roofing asphalt.

==== Walls ====
* Side Walls
** 1/4 outside plywood, 3/4th framing & insulating board, 1/4 interior (Birch?) plywood
* Roofwall
** Vent: [http://www.fantasticvent.com/products/model_4000/model_4000.html FanTastic Fan, model #4000R]
* Fenders? (SEE FRAME)

==== Skin ====
* Aluminum
** Sheet metal in east bay: [http://waltermork.com/] or [http://www.cbrs.us/] or [http://www.ablemetal.com/] (none of these are vetted, i'm just looking things up.
* llll design
** Toastmaster logo: [http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_logo.html] and [http://img0105.popscreencdn.com/155046934_1950s-vintage-toastmaster-chrome-toaster-1b14-automatic-.jpg]

==== Hatch ====
* How to hold open?
==== Doors ====
* shape
* location
* construction
* Latches (flush or sticking out?)
* Windows (crank v slide)

==== Front Box ====
==== Accessory Mounting/Storage ====
* table mounts and storage
* spare tire

===Interior===

* Cabin color based on dark brown stain on the plywood. Have already tested taking propane torch to wood for a true burnt look, but control was somewhat hard and just more pleased with overall the stained look.
* Clock somewhere in head or foot. (Stereo?)
* Stereo in Head (or Foot?)
* Speakers in Head (or Foot?) and Kitchen.

==== Head ====
Main challenge is getting some sort of cabinet door that is sturdy enough.

==== Foot ====
Consider mini shelf down below for shoes, etc.
Green soft-boxes we currently use for clothes are 10.5 x 10.5 x 11" tall (give or take, they're soft).

==== Kitchen ====
* Cooler / Stove [[Components|component dimensions]]

==== Textiles ====
Toast/Butter/Jelly theme: Jelly colored pillow cases with dark brown comforter cover.

=== Electrical ===
* Battery & fuseblock
* Stereo
* LED lighting - What and where?
* Toaster FX
* charging (solar/vehicle)

WorkBreakdown

2015-03-11T06:21:27Z

Roymeo: /* Trailer */

== Helpers ==
* [[Inspiration]]
* word Doc {{checkx}}
* wiki {{important}}
** install {{checkmark}}
** allow uploads {{checkmark}}
* Foamcore mockup {{bang}}
* Illustrator [[Diagrams]]
** take old interior to new profile {{checkmark}}
** resize based on wall dimensions {{checkbox}}
** add stove/cooler {{checkbox}}

== Questions/Next Steps ==
* Frame construction:
** Wall thickness to determine frame width
** What shape of steel?
** Get ball measurement
** Figure out angle for a-frame coupler attachment
** etc
* Foamcore mockup:
** Footwell: Did the changes to the design when making the .ai shrink the legroom too much?
** Footwell: Do we want a shoe-shelf? Full width or just side triangles?
** Headboard: What to do with the headboard? Play with designs.
* Foamcore construction:
** Start getting Foamcore from SCRAP (pay attention to thickness) {{checkmark}}
** Get a final set of measurements {{checkmark}}
** Take foamcore to Am Steel to start building in the space (and see how we fit)
** we should probably set a date

== Trailer ==
[[Diagrams]]
=== Exterior ===
==== [[Frame]] ====

==== Base ====
* 108" x 56" plywood, made from 2 5x5' sheets of 1/2" thick plywood. Framed underneath with 1x2, 1x3, 1x4 birch(?).
* Bottom covered by roofing asphalt.

==== Walls ====
* Side Walls
** 1/4 outside plywood, 3/4th framing & insulating board, 1/4 interior (Birch?) plywood
* Roofwall
** Vent: [http://www.fantasticvent.com/products/model_4000/model_4000.html FanTastic Fan, model #4000R]
* Fenders? (SEE FRAME)

==== Skin ====
* Aluminum
** Sheet metal in east bay: [http://waltermork.com/] or [http://www.cbrs.us/] or [http://www.ablemetal.com/] (none of these are vetted, i'm just looking things up.
* llll design
** Toastmaster logo: [http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_logo.html] and [http://img0105.popscreencdn.com/155046934_1950s-vintage-toastmaster-chrome-toaster-1b14-automatic-.jpg]

==== Hatch ====
* How to hold open?
==== Doors ====
* shape
* location
* construction
* Latches (flush or sticking out?)
* Windows (crank v slide)

==== Front Box ====
==== Accessory Mounting/Storage ====
* table mounts and storage
* spare tire

===Interior===

* Cabin color based on dark brown stain on the plywood. Have already tested taking propane torch to wood for a true burnt look, but control was somewhat hard and just more pleased with overall the stained look.
* Clock somewhere in head or foot. (Stereo?)
* Stereo in Head (or Foot?)
* Speakers in Head (or Foot?) and Kitchen.

==== Head ====
Main challenge is getting some sort of cabinet door that is sturdy enough.

==== Foot ====
Consider mini shelf down below for shoes, etc.
Green soft-boxes we currently use for clothes are 10.5 x 10.5 x 11" tall (give or take, they're soft).

==== Kitchen ====
* Cooler / Stove [[Components|component dimensions]]

==== Textiles ====
Toast/Butter/Jelly theme: Jelly colored pillow cases with dark brown comforter cover.

=== Electrical ===
* Battery & fuseblock
* Stereo
* LED lighting - What and where?
* Toaster FX
* charging (solar/vehicle)

Diagrams

2015-03-11T06:16:44Z

Roymeo: /* Body */

Diagrams

2015-03-11T06:14:16Z

Roymeo:

File:ToasterBase.jpg

2015-03-11T06:13:11Z

Roymeo: Roymeo uploaded a new version of "File:ToasterBase.jpg"

2014-07-31T19:44:38Z

Roymeo: /* Toaster Build Expenses */

WorkBreakdown

2014-07-01T00:13:59Z

Roymeo: /* Foot */

== Helpers ==
* [[Inspiration]]
* word Doc {{checkx}}
* wiki {{important}}
** install {{checkmark}}
** allow uploads {{checkmark}}
* Foamcore mockup {{bang}}
* Illustrator [[Diagrams]]
** take old interior to new profile {{checkmark}}
** resize based on wall dimensions {{checkbox}}
** add stove/cooler {{checkbox}}

== Questions/Next Steps ==
* Frame construction:
** Wall thickness to determine frame width
** What shape of steel?
** Get ball measurement
** Figure out angle for a-frame coupler attachment
** etc
* Foamcore mockup:
** Footwell: Did the changes to the design when making the .ai shrink the legroom too much?
** Footwell: Do we want a shoe-shelf? Full width or just side triangles?
** Headboard: What to do with the headboard? Play with designs.
* Foamcore construction:
** Start getting Foamcore from SCRAP (pay attention to thickness) {{checkmark}}
** Get a final set of measurements {{checkmark}}
** Take foamcore to Am Steel to start building in the space (and see how we fit)
** we should probably set a date

== Trailer ==
[[Diagrams]]
=== Exterior ===
==== [[Frame]] ====

==== Walls ====
* Side Walls
** 1/4 outside plywood, 3/4th framing & insulating board, 1/4 interior (Birch?) plywood
* Roofwall
** Vent: [http://www.fantasticvent.com/products/model_4000/model_4000.html FanTastic Fan, model #4000R]
* Fenders? (SEE FRAME)

==== Skin ====
* Aluminum
** Sheet metal in east bay: [http://waltermork.com/] or [http://www.cbrs.us/] or [http://www.ablemetal.com/] (none of these are vetted, i'm just looking things up.
* llll design
** Toastmaster logo: [http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_logo.html] and [http://img0105.popscreencdn.com/155046934_1950s-vintage-toastmaster-chrome-toaster-1b14-automatic-.jpg]

==== Hatch ====
* How to hold open?
==== Doors ====
* shape
* location
* construction
* Latches (flush or sticking out?)
* Windows (crank v slide)

==== Front Box ====
==== Accessory Mounting/Storage ====
* table mounts and storage
* spare tire

===Interior===

* Cabin color based on dark brown stain on the plywood. Have already tested taking propane torch to wood for a true burnt look, but control was somewhat hard and just more pleased with overall the stained look.
* Clock somewhere in head or foot. (Stereo?)
* Stereo in Head (or Foot?)
* Speakers in Head (or Foot?) and Kitchen.

==== Head ====
Main challenge is getting some sort of cabinet door that is sturdy enough.

==== Foot ====
Consider mini shelf down below for shoes, etc.
Green soft-boxes we currently use for clothes are 10.5 x 10.5 x 11" tall (give or take, they're soft).

==== Kitchen ====
* Cooler / Stove [[Components|component dimensions]]

==== Textiles ====
Toast/Butter/Jelly theme: Jelly colored pillow cases with dark brown comforter cover.

=== Electrical ===
* Battery & fuseblock
* Stereo
* LED lighting - What and where?
* Toaster FX
* charging (solar/vehicle)

Expenses

2014-06-12T02:44:39Z

Roymeo:

== Toaster Build Expenses ==

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="3"| Materials
|-
! Date !! Item !! Cost

|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2 THG Amber running lights] || style='text-align:right;' | $11.38
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2 THG Red running lights] || style='text-align:right;' | $11.38
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=S/T/T&product_id=476 2 12 5/8 "" Surface mount strip S/T/T, Item# L03-0025 , Color: Red] || style='text-align:right;' | $45.00
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link ] || style='text-align:right;' | $6.31
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight] || style='text-align:right;' | $405.28
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 2 Domar 650# Stabilizer Jacks] || style='text-align:right;' | $34.11
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 2 14"" Rounded fender with back] || style='text-align:right;' | $75.91
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 2 Americana Aluminum HWT Series S5 Trailer Wheel - 14"" x 5-1/2"" Rim - 5 on 4-1/2] || style='text-align:right;' | $180.41
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html 2 Loadstar ST205/75D14 Bias Trailer Tires] || style='text-align:right;' | $150.01
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 2 Americana Rubber Snap-In Valve Stem - 1-1/4"" Long - Up to 100 psi] || style='text-align:right;' | $3.71
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html Husky Channel Tongue Trailer Coupler - Zinc Plated - 2"" Ball - 3"" Channel - 3,500 lbs] || style='text-align:right;' | $16.10
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Pro-Series/PSEJ10000101.html Tongue Wheel: Pro Series Snap-Ring Swivel Marine Jack - Bolt On - Sidewind - 10"" Lift - 1,000 lbs] || style='text-align:right;' | $34.15
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 80151 Safety Cable Assembly with Hooks] || style='text-align:right;' | $19.26
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYFTV/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Wesbar 4-Way Flat 25-Feet Trailer End Wishbone Harness, 3-Feet Ground ] || style='text-align:right;' | $15.23
|-
| 05/14/2014 || [http://www.leostires.com/ Wheels mounted and balanced] || style='text-align:right;' | $60.00
|-
| 05/17/2014 || Desert Metal Products: Frame steel and build expenses || style='text-align:right;' | $250.00
|-
| 05/19/2014 || Uhaul trailer to tow frame home || style='text-align:right;' | $81.29
|-
| 05/25/2014 || DBS: Primer, Paint*2, Brushes*2 || style='text-align:right;' | $86.72
|-
| 05/26/2014 || Center: grade 8 Bolts, Washers, Nut || style='text-align:right;' | $36.03
|-
| 05/30/2014 || [http://www.flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=S/T/T&product_id=476 12 5/8 "" Surface mount strip S/T/T, Item# L03-0025 , Color: Red] || style='text-align:right;' | $25.00
|-
| 06/11/2014 || Lowe's: 7 grade 8 nylock nuts || style='text-align:right;' | $13.40

|-
! colspan="2"| Total || ??
|}

Expenses

2014-06-12T02:40:34Z

Roymeo:

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="3"| Materials
|-
! Date !! Item !! Cost

|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2 THG Amber running lights] || style='text-align:right;' | $11.38
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2 THG Red running lights] || style='text-align:right;' | $11.38
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=S/T/T&product_id=476 2 12 5/8 "" Surface mount strip S/T/T, Item# L03-0025 , Color: Red] || style='text-align:right;' | $45.00
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link ] || style='text-align:right;' | $6.31
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight] || style='text-align:right;' | $405.28
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 2 Domar 650# Stabilizer Jacks] || style='text-align:right;' | $34.11
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 2 14"" Rounded fender with back] || style='text-align:right;' | $75.91
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 2 Americana Aluminum HWT Series S5 Trailer Wheel - 14"" x 5-1/2"" Rim - 5 on 4-1/2] || style='text-align:right;' | $180.41
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html 2 Loadstar ST205/75D14 Bias Trailer Tires] || style='text-align:right;' | $150.01
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 2 Americana Rubber Snap-In Valve Stem - 1-1/4"" Long - Up to 100 psi] || style='text-align:right;' | $3.71
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html Husky Channel Tongue Trailer Coupler - Zinc Plated - 2"" Ball - 3"" Channel - 3,500 lbs] || style='text-align:right;' | $16.10
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Pro-Series/PSEJ10000101.html Tongue Wheel: Pro Series Snap-Ring Swivel Marine Jack - Bolt On - Sidewind - 10"" Lift - 1,000 lbs] || style='text-align:right;' | $34.15
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 80151 Safety Cable Assembly with Hooks] || style='text-align:right;' | $19.26
|-
| 05/01/2014 || [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYFTV/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Wesbar 4-Way Flat 25-Feet Trailer End Wishbone Harness, 3-Feet Ground ] || style='text-align:right;' | $15.23
|-
| 05/14/2014 || [http://www.leostires.com/ Wheels mounted and balanced] || style='text-align:right;' | $60.00
|-
| 05/17/2014 || Desert Metal Products: Frame steel and build expenses || style='text-align:right;' | $250.00
|-
| 05/19/2014 || Uhaul trailer to tow frame home || style='text-align:right;' | $81.29
|-
| 05/25/2014 || DBS: Primer, Paint*2, Brushes*2 || style='text-align:right;' | $86.72
|-
| 05/26/2014 || Center: grade 8 Bolts, Washers, Nut || style='text-align:right;' | $36.03
|-
| 05/30/2014 || [http://www.flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&filter_name=S/T/T&product_id=476 12 5/8 "" Surface mount strip S/T/T, Item# L03-0025 , Color: Red] || style='text-align:right;' | $25.00
|-
| 06/11/2014 || Lowe's: 7 grade 8 nylock nuts || style='text-align:right;' | $13.40

|-
! colspan="2"| Total || ??
|}

Expenses

2014-06-12T00:58:09Z

Roymeo:

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| Materials
|-
! style="text-align:left;"| Item
! Cost

|-
|[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/roymeosreadinglo 2 THG Amber lights]
|11.38

|-
| 05/01/2014
| [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 link]

|-
| 05/01/2014
| [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG Amber running lights]
| $11.38

|-
|[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/roymeosreadinglo 2 THG Red lights]
|11.38
|-
!Total
|??
|}

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="2"| Other
|-
! style="text-align:left;"| Item
! Cost
|-
|Shop, Feb/Mar/Apr
|$600
|-
!Total
|??
|}

File:ToasterKitchen.jpg

2014-06-02T00:57:29Z

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File:ToasterSide.jpg

2014-06-02T00:06:58Z

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File:ToasterFrame.jpg

2014-06-02T00:05:59Z

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File:ToasterFrame.jpg

2014-05-31T04:46:22Z

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File:ToasterSide.jpg

2014-05-19T06:25:36Z

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File:ToasterFrame.jpg

2014-05-19T06:25:16Z

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Frame

2014-05-19T06:06:04Z

Roymeo: /* Dimensions */

__NOTOC__

Helper doc: [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc]

=== Dimensions ===

56.5" x 108" cabin.

Basically 4.5' x 9' Frame, but 4.5 is interior cabin width. Walls are ¼” outside, ¾” framing, and ¼” inside. That is 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for both walls adding to the width. 54"+2.5" = 56.5". (Choosing at this time NOT to round up to 57".)

2" x 2" x 1/8" steel tube is trailer base stock.

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Cabin Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| =
| Width (external)
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| =
| 56.5"
|}

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Length
|-
| Frame
| +
| Tongue dist
| =
| Total Length
|-
| (9') 108"
| +
| (5') 60 "
| =
| (14') 168" end to end
|}
[[File:ToasterFrame.jpg|none|frame|Bottom/Frame]]

[[File:ToasterFrame-PreBuild.jpg|none|frame|Frame concept before really building it]]

=== Need to resolve before build ===
* What's the tonguebox look like? (Black?) To hold: Battery, fuse block, chocks
* Spare tire? If so, at what location?

=== Buy/Have before build ===
* Metal stock
** 2" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 2 of 108" side rails
*** 2 of 74" tongue rails
*** 4 of 52.5" crossbeam rails
** 3" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 1 of 12" length for coupler mount
** 1" angle x 1/8" (or 1" flat):
*** 2 of ~15" stabilizer straps
*** 2 of ~10" stabilizer straps
** side-table mount tubing - 1" tubing x 4" long, 3/4" tubing should fit inside, 4 each.
** bit of flat or angle in near the tongue wheel to help stabilize - TBD

[[File:FrameSteelCutLayout.jpg|none|frame|Steel Cut Layout]]

* Axle: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight]
* Wheels/Tires: [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 14" Al + Black detail rim] with [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html Loadstar tires] and [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 100psi valve stems]
* Fenders: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 14" rounded with back]
* Hitch Coupler: Husky 2" ball, 3" beam, 3500#: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html @eTrailer] (alternate: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004OK86SU/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon] )
* Safety Chain/Cable:
** Cable: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 40" 5000# @Amazon] (alternates: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009V1WTS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master 40" 5000# @Amazon] | [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001IH8PN8/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Reese 32" 3000# @Amazon])
** Links: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link @Amazon]
** + 2 locking S-hooks for Shorty! [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LOLWZW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon]
* Stabilizer Jacks: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 650# Domar @ eTrailer]
* Lights: mount to frame unless otherwise noted ([http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/trlrpstr.html NHTSA requirements])
** 4-Way flat light harness: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYFTV/aoeusthaoeusntd-20
Wesbar 25' @Amazon]
** oval mount-on frame lights, must be less than 2" tall:
*** 2 red Stop/Tail/Turn lights on back [http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_85&product_id=476 S/T/T from flipflop] ( [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0069TND14/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2nd choice])
*** 2 red run (maybe brake/turn) on back-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
*** 2 orange running up front-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
* Tongue Wheel: one of [http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Jack-sf-Swivel_Jack-pt-Sidewind_Jack-gw-1000_lbs.aspx the 1000# ones]
* add a couple table mounts near lift braces

Later:
** license plate mounting & light: thinking on back hatch
*** use light bolts: [http://www.customdynamics.com/illuminatorz_licence_plates.htm] (bottom of page) or [http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/kuryakyn-led-license-plate-bolt-lights-with-14-inch-x-20-mounting-studs-pair/part/KY-9199] There are other sources, this is just to start with.
* Primer & Paint or Bedliner
** DIY tutorial: [http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/winter2008/durabak.htm]

Dropped:
* [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lights/Optronics/STL80RB.html third brake light] attached to 1 1/2" angle iron x 1/8" thickness x ~20" mount

=== ideas ===
* tack some hex nuts or washers down the side rails on the inside to zip-tie the lighting cables to.
[[File:HexWiring.jpg|none|frame|Hex nut hangers for wiring]]

----

=== First notes: ===

* Axle & placement
<blockquote>"My simplest rule of thumb is to put the axle between 35% and 40% of the frame length from the back – so 36" on an 8ft frame is bang in the middle at 37.5%! You can go as far forward as 45% of the frame length, but only if you have a light galley and intend to fit a heavy tongue box." - [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc] </blockquote>
* Wheel size?
* Requirement for brakes is 1500# ( [http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm] )
* Prime & Paint
* configuration
* dimensions 4.5 x 9
** Want a 4'6" interior?
**# 54" interior width, full size mattress
**# Add wall thickness x 2(i.e. ¼” outside ¾” framing and ¼” inside = 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for walls)
**# Add tire clearance x 2 you decide...I fit them tight 1" each side x 2 = 2”
**# Add offset of tire on wheel inside x 2(i.e. 4” from hub face to the back of the tire x 2 = 8”)
**# Final dimension gives you hub face to hub face...order your axle
**# Weld perches where you want to allow for exterior wood perimeter to shoot screws into for sides.
*** To sum it up: 54” + 2 ½” + 2” + 8” = 66 ½” Round it up to 67” and that is your axle width hub face to hub face.
* levellers/stabilizers
* wheel jack
* Operating Lights

Axle calc when we were considering a full axle:
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Axle Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| +
| Tire Clearance
| +
| Tire Offset
| =
| Axle Length
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| +
| (1" * 2) 2" ???
| +
| (5.6 / 2 * 2) 5.6"
| =
| 64.1" ???? Call it 65"
|}

File:ToasterFrame-PreBuild.jpg

2014-05-19T06:03:27Z

Roymeo:

Frame

2014-05-19T06:03:08Z

Roymeo: /* Dimensions */

__NOTOC__

Helper doc: [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc]

=== Dimensions ===

56.5" x 108" cabin.

Basically 4.5' x 9' Frame, but 4.5 is interior cabin width. Walls are ¼” outside, ¾” framing, and ¼” inside. That is 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for both walls adding to the width. 54"+2.5" = 56.5". (Choosing at this time NOT to round up to 57".)

2" x 2" x 1/8" steel tube is trailer base stock.

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Cabin Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| =
| Width (external)
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| =
| 56.5"
|}

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Length
|-
| Frame
| +
| Tongue dist
| =
| Total Length
|-
| (9') 108"
| +
| ? 51" to center of ball ?? (Try 60")
| =
| ?? (13.25') 159" to center of ball ?? (Try 14')
|}
[[File:ToasterFrame.jpg|none|frame|Bottom/Frame]]

[[File:ToasterFrame-PreBuild.jpg|none|frame|Frame concept before really building it]]

=== Need to resolve before build ===
* What's the tonguebox look like? (Black?) To hold: Battery, fuse block, chocks
* Spare tire? If so, at what location?

=== Buy/Have before build ===
* Metal stock
** 2" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 2 of 108" side rails
*** 2 of 74" tongue rails
*** 4 of 52.5" crossbeam rails
** 3" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 1 of 12" length for coupler mount
** 1" angle x 1/8" (or 1" flat):
*** 2 of ~15" stabilizer straps
*** 2 of ~10" stabilizer straps
** side-table mount tubing - 1" tubing x 4" long, 3/4" tubing should fit inside, 4 each.
** bit of flat or angle in near the tongue wheel to help stabilize - TBD

[[File:FrameSteelCutLayout.jpg|none|frame|Steel Cut Layout]]

* Axle: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight]
* Wheels/Tires: [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 14" Al + Black detail rim] with [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html Loadstar tires] and [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 100psi valve stems]
* Fenders: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 14" rounded with back]
* Hitch Coupler: Husky 2" ball, 3" beam, 3500#: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html @eTrailer] (alternate: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004OK86SU/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon] )
* Safety Chain/Cable:
** Cable: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 40" 5000# @Amazon] (alternates: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009V1WTS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master 40" 5000# @Amazon] | [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001IH8PN8/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Reese 32" 3000# @Amazon])
** Links: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link @Amazon]
** + 2 locking S-hooks for Shorty! [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LOLWZW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon]
* Stabilizer Jacks: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 650# Domar @ eTrailer]
* Lights: mount to frame unless otherwise noted ([http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/trlrpstr.html NHTSA requirements])
** 4-Way flat light harness: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYFTV/aoeusthaoeusntd-20
Wesbar 25' @Amazon]
** oval mount-on frame lights, must be less than 2" tall:
*** 2 red Stop/Tail/Turn lights on back [http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_85&product_id=476 S/T/T from flipflop] ( [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0069TND14/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2nd choice])
*** 2 red run (maybe brake/turn) on back-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
*** 2 orange running up front-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
* Tongue Wheel: one of [http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Jack-sf-Swivel_Jack-pt-Sidewind_Jack-gw-1000_lbs.aspx the 1000# ones]
* add a couple table mounts near lift braces

Later:
** license plate mounting & light: thinking on back hatch
*** use light bolts: [http://www.customdynamics.com/illuminatorz_licence_plates.htm] (bottom of page) or [http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/kuryakyn-led-license-plate-bolt-lights-with-14-inch-x-20-mounting-studs-pair/part/KY-9199] There are other sources, this is just to start with.
* Primer & Paint or Bedliner
** DIY tutorial: [http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/winter2008/durabak.htm]

Dropped:
* [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lights/Optronics/STL80RB.html third brake light] attached to 1 1/2" angle iron x 1/8" thickness x ~20" mount

=== ideas ===
* tack some hex nuts or washers down the side rails on the inside to zip-tie the lighting cables to.
[[File:HexWiring.jpg|none|frame|Hex nut hangers for wiring]]

----

=== First notes: ===

* Axle & placement
<blockquote>"My simplest rule of thumb is to put the axle between 35% and 40% of the frame length from the back – so 36" on an 8ft frame is bang in the middle at 37.5%! You can go as far forward as 45% of the frame length, but only if you have a light galley and intend to fit a heavy tongue box." - [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc] </blockquote>
* Wheel size?
* Requirement for brakes is 1500# ( [http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm] )
* Prime & Paint
* configuration
* dimensions 4.5 x 9
** Want a 4'6" interior?
**# 54" interior width, full size mattress
**# Add wall thickness x 2(i.e. ¼” outside ¾” framing and ¼” inside = 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for walls)
**# Add tire clearance x 2 you decide...I fit them tight 1" each side x 2 = 2”
**# Add offset of tire on wheel inside x 2(i.e. 4” from hub face to the back of the tire x 2 = 8”)
**# Final dimension gives you hub face to hub face...order your axle
**# Weld perches where you want to allow for exterior wood perimeter to shoot screws into for sides.
*** To sum it up: 54” + 2 ½” + 2” + 8” = 66 ½” Round it up to 67” and that is your axle width hub face to hub face.
* levellers/stabilizers
* wheel jack
* Operating Lights

Axle calc when we were considering a full axle:
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Axle Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| +
| Tire Clearance
| +
| Tire Offset
| =
| Axle Length
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| +
| (1" * 2) 2" ???
| +
| (5.6 / 2 * 2) 5.6"
| =
| 64.1" ???? Call it 65"
|}

Frame

2014-05-19T06:02:00Z

Roymeo: /* Dimensions */

__NOTOC__

Helper doc: [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc]

=== Dimensions ===

56.5" x 108" cabin.

Basically 4.5' x 9' Frame, but 4.5 is interior cabin width. Walls are ¼” outside, ¾” framing, and ¼” inside. That is 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for both walls adding to the width. 54"+2.5" = 56.5". (Choosing at this time NOT to round up to 57".)

2" x 2" x 1/8" steel tube is trailer base stock.

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Cabin Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| =
| Width (external)
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| =
| 56.5"
|}

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Length
|-
| Frame
| +
| Tongue dist
| =
| Total Length
|-
| (9') 108"
| +
| ? 51" to center of ball ??
| =
| ?? (13.25') 159" to center of ball ??
|}
[[File:ToasterFrame.jpg|none|frame|Bottom/Frame]]

[[File:ToasterFrame-PreBuild.jpg|none|frame|Bottom/Frame]]

=== Need to resolve before build ===
* What's the tonguebox look like? (Black?) To hold: Battery, fuse block, chocks
* Spare tire? If so, at what location?

=== Buy/Have before build ===
* Metal stock
** 2" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 2 of 108" side rails
*** 2 of 74" tongue rails
*** 4 of 52.5" crossbeam rails
** 3" x 2" x 1/8" tube:
*** 1 of 12" length for coupler mount
** 1" angle x 1/8" (or 1" flat):
*** 2 of ~15" stabilizer straps
*** 2 of ~10" stabilizer straps
** side-table mount tubing - 1" tubing x 4" long, 3/4" tubing should fit inside, 4 each.
** bit of flat or angle in near the tongue wheel to help stabilize - TBD

[[File:FrameSteelCutLayout.jpg|none|frame|Steel Cut Layout]]

* Axle: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight]
* Wheels/Tires: [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 14" Al + Black detail rim] with [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html Loadstar tires] and [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 100psi valve stems]
* Fenders: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 14" rounded with back]
* Hitch Coupler: Husky 2" ball, 3" beam, 3500#: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html @eTrailer] (alternate: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004OK86SU/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon] )
* Safety Chain/Cable:
** Cable: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 40" 5000# @Amazon] (alternates: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009V1WTS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master 40" 5000# @Amazon] | [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001IH8PN8/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Reese 32" 3000# @Amazon])
** Links: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link @Amazon]
** + 2 locking S-hooks for Shorty! [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LOLWZW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon]
* Stabilizer Jacks: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 650# Domar @ eTrailer]
* Lights: mount to frame unless otherwise noted ([http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/trlrpstr.html NHTSA requirements])
** 4-Way flat light harness: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AYFTV/aoeusthaoeusntd-20
Wesbar 25' @Amazon]
** oval mount-on frame lights, must be less than 2" tall:
*** 2 red Stop/Tail/Turn lights on back [http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_85&product_id=476 S/T/T from flipflop] ( [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0069TND14/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2nd choice])
*** 2 red run (maybe brake/turn) on back-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
*** 2 orange running up front-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
* Tongue Wheel: one of [http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Jack-sf-Swivel_Jack-pt-Sidewind_Jack-gw-1000_lbs.aspx the 1000# ones]
* add a couple table mounts near lift braces

Later:
** license plate mounting & light: thinking on back hatch
*** use light bolts: [http://www.customdynamics.com/illuminatorz_licence_plates.htm] (bottom of page) or [http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/kuryakyn-led-license-plate-bolt-lights-with-14-inch-x-20-mounting-studs-pair/part/KY-9199] There are other sources, this is just to start with.
* Primer & Paint or Bedliner
** DIY tutorial: [http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/winter2008/durabak.htm]

Dropped:
* [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lights/Optronics/STL80RB.html third brake light] attached to 1 1/2" angle iron x 1/8" thickness x ~20" mount

=== ideas ===
* tack some hex nuts or washers down the side rails on the inside to zip-tie the lighting cables to.
[[File:HexWiring.jpg|none|frame|Hex nut hangers for wiring]]

----

=== First notes: ===

* Axle & placement
<blockquote>"My simplest rule of thumb is to put the axle between 35% and 40% of the frame length from the back – so 36" on an 8ft frame is bang in the middle at 37.5%! You can go as far forward as 45% of the frame length, but only if you have a light galley and intend to fit a heavy tongue box." - [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc] </blockquote>
* Wheel size?
* Requirement for brakes is 1500# ( [http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm] )
* Prime & Paint
* configuration
* dimensions 4.5 x 9
** Want a 4'6" interior?
**# 54" interior width, full size mattress
**# Add wall thickness x 2(i.e. ¼” outside ¾” framing and ¼” inside = 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for walls)
**# Add tire clearance x 2 you decide...I fit them tight 1" each side x 2 = 2”
**# Add offset of tire on wheel inside x 2(i.e. 4” from hub face to the back of the tire x 2 = 8”)
**# Final dimension gives you hub face to hub face...order your axle
**# Weld perches where you want to allow for exterior wood perimeter to shoot screws into for sides.
*** To sum it up: 54” + 2 ½” + 2” + 8” = 66 ½” Round it up to 67” and that is your axle width hub face to hub face.
* levellers/stabilizers
* wheel jack
* Operating Lights

Axle calc when we were considering a full axle:
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Axle Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| +
| Tire Clearance
| +
| Tire Offset
| =
| Axle Length
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| +
| (1" * 2) 2" ???
| +
| (5.6 / 2 * 2) 5.6"
| =
| 64.1" ???? Call it 65"
|}

2014-04-28T17:49:01Z

Roymeo:

Expenses

2014-04-28T17:48:03Z

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!colspan="2"| Materials
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2014-04-28T04:46:11Z

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2014-04-28T04:33:25Z

Roymeo: /* Buy/Have before build: */

__NOTOC__

Helper doc: [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc]

=== Dimensions ===

Basically 4.5' x 9' Frame, but 4.5 is interior cabin width. Walls are ¼” outside, ¾” framing, and ¼” inside. That is 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for both walls adding to the width. 54"+2.5" = 56.5". (Choosing at this time NOT to round up to 57".)

2" x 2" x 1/8" steel tube is trailer base stock.

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Cabin Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| =
| Width (external)
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| =
| 56.5"
|}

{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Length
|-
| Frame
| +
| Tongue dist
| =
| Total Length
|-
| (9') 108"
| +
| ? 51" to center of ball ??
| =
| ?? (13.25') 159" to center of ball ??
|}
[[File:ToasterFrame.jpg|none|frame|Bottom/Frame]]

=== Need to resolve before build ===
* What's the tonguebox look like? (Black?) To hold: Battery, fuse block, chocks
* Spare tire? If so, at what location?

=== Buy/Have before build: ===
* Metal stock
** 2" x 2" x 1/8"
*** 2 of 108" side rails
*** 2 of 74" tongue rails
*** 2 of 56.5" front/back rails
*** 2 of 52.5" interior rails
** 3" x 2" x 1/8"
*** 1 of 12" length for coupler mount
** 1" angle x 1/8"
*** 2 of 15" jack straps
*** 2 of 10" jack straps
** side-table mount tubing - 1" tubing x 4" long, 3/4" tubing should fit inside, 4 each.
** bit of flat or angle in near the tongue wheel to help stabilize - TBD
[File:SteelCutList.jpg]

* Axle: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Axles/Timbren/A20RS545.html Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 5 on 4-1/2 - 2,000 lbs - straight]
* Wheels/Tires: [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Americana/AM22330HWTB.html 14" Al + Black detail rim] with [http://www.etrailer.com/Tires-and-Wheels/Kenda/AM1ST84.html Loadstar tires] and [http://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Americana/AM20907.html 100psi valve stems]
* Fenders: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Fenders/Redline/F9X32-1RWB.html 14" rounded with back]
* Hitch Coupler: Husky 2" ball, 3" beam, 3500#: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Coupler/Husky/HT87075.html @eTrailer] (alternate: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004OK86SU/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon] )
* Safety Chain/Cable:
** Cable: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B004QEF95M/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Curt 40" 5000# @Amazon] (alternates: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009V1WTS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master 40" 5000# @Amazon] | [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001IH8PN8/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Reese 32" 3000# @Amazon])
** Links: [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JZDJTK/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 Master Lock 2983DAT Chain Quick Link @Amazon]
** + 2 locking S-hooks for Shorty! [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LOLWZW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 @Amazon]
* Stabilizer Jacks: [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jack/Domar/TJ01RT.html 650# Domar @ eTrailer]
* Lights: mount to frame unless otherwise noted ([http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/conspicuity/trlrpstr.html NHTSA requirements])
** buy a magnetic 12V light kit for $20 from HF to get it home, if necessary
** oval mount-on frame lights, must be less than 2" tall:
*** 2 red run/brake/turn on back [http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_85&product_id=476 SST from flipflop] ( [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0069TND14/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 2nd choice])
*** 2 red run (maybe brake/turn) on back-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOTPS/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
*** 2 orange running up front-side [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00D2JOSCW/aoeusthaoeusntd-20 THG] ([http://flipflopled.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=82&product_id=286 2nd choice])
* Tongue Wheel: one of [http://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Jack-sf-Swivel_Jack-pt-Sidewind_Jack-gw-1000_lbs.aspx the 1000# ones]
* add a couple table mounts near lift braces

Later:
** license plate mounting & light: thinking on back hatch
*** use light bolts: [http://www.customdynamics.com/illuminatorz_licence_plates.htm] (bottom of page) or [http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/kuryakyn-led-license-plate-bolt-lights-with-14-inch-x-20-mounting-studs-pair/part/KY-9199] There are other sources, this is just to start with.
* Primer & Paint or Bedliner
** DIY tutorial: [http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/winter2008/durabak.htm]

Dropped:
* [http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Lights/Optronics/STL80RB.html third brake light] attached to 1 1/2" angle iron x 1/8" thickness x ~20" mount

=== ideas ===
* tack some hex nuts or washers down the side rails on the inside to zip-tie the lighting cables to.
[[File:HexWiring.jpg|none|frame|Hex nut hangers for wiring]]

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=== First notes: ===

* Axle & placement
<blockquote>"My simplest rule of thumb is to put the axle between 35% and 40% of the frame length from the back – so 36" on an 8ft frame is bang in the middle at 37.5%! You can go as far forward as 45% of the frame length, but only if you have a light galley and intend to fit a heavy tongue box." - [http://www.teardroptrailers.us/tbuild.pdf Doug and Steve's frame fabrication doc] </blockquote>
* Wheel size?
* Requirement for brakes is 1500# ( [http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt12.htm] )
* Prime & Paint
* configuration
* dimensions 4.5 x 9
** Want a 4'6" interior?
**# 54" interior width, full size mattress
**# Add wall thickness x 2(i.e. ¼” outside ¾” framing and ¼” inside = 1 ¼” x 2 = 2 ½” for walls)
**# Add tire clearance x 2 you decide...I fit them tight 1" each side x 2 = 2”
**# Add offset of tire on wheel inside x 2(i.e. 4” from hub face to the back of the tire x 2 = 8”)
**# Final dimension gives you hub face to hub face...order your axle
**# Weld perches where you want to allow for exterior wood perimeter to shoot screws into for sides.
*** To sum it up: 54” + 2 ½” + 2” + 8” = 66 ½” Round it up to 67” and that is your axle width hub face to hub face.
* levellers/stabilizers
* wheel jack
* Operating Lights

Axle calc when we were considering a full axle:
{| class="wikitable"
!colspan="9"|Axle Width
|-
| Bed
| +
| Walls
| +
| Tire Clearance
| +
| Tire Offset
| =
| Axle Length
|-
| (4.5') 54"
| +
| (1.25 * 2) 2.5"
| +
| (1" * 2) 2" ???
| +
| (5.6 / 2 * 2) 5.6"
| =
| 64.1" ???? Call it 65"
|}